The child emperor
GW Bush - - Posted on April, 19 at 2:26 pm by Ken L
New York mayor Micael Bloomberg is looking forward to 2009 and a new president.
“Some of the things they will be in favor of I will agree with, some of the things they will be in favor of I won’t. But at least we’ll have an adult in office who can lead and can accomplish something.”
Hehehe.
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April 19th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Ouch. And from a billionaire too.
Talk about rats and sinking ships.
April 19th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Let’s hope it’s not a super “paranoid” adult in office who sees just about everyone as an enemy & involved in a conspiracy to bring her down…ya know, i kinda liked Hillary before this campaign…so did Robert Reich (check out his blog)…i thought her fireside chat w/ Google staff early last year was brill…but that seem yonks ago now:
Clinton Slams Democratic Activists At Private Fundraiser
At a small closed-door fundraiser after Super Tuesday, Sen. Hillary Clinton blamed what she called the “activist base” of the Democratic Party — and MoveOn.org in particular — for many of her electoral defeats, saying activists had “flooded” state caucuses and “intimidated” her supporters, according to an audio recording of the event obtained by The Huffington Post.
“Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] — which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down,” Clinton said to a meeting of donors. “We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn’t even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that’s what we’re dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it’s primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don’t agree with them. They know I don’t agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/celeste-fremon/clinton-slams-democratic_b_97484.html
BTW:
Reaction among progressive bloggers has been swift.
Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake writes that she’s “tried to stay out of the [Clinton-Obama] pie fights of late, but as a long-term defender of MoveOn and other progressive organizations — this is completely unacceptable. ‘MoveOn opposed military action in Afghanistan’ is a Republican talking point, articulated specifically and purposefully by Karl Rove.”
(the Raw Story. org)
“For fifteen years, everybody told me I was making it up. Everyone said it was just a story. There’s no such thing as the Boogeyman. But I was right.”
(Tim from ‘The Boogeyman’)
Is it just me, or is it getting hot here in Hillary’s bedroom closet? Ok, who ate garlic for lunch?
April 19th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Yeah!Watching and waiting to see what happens in the U.S.A. is like reports of deaths and funerals and who said what in the ALP!Ramsay the lockjaw of malice,sometimes melts appropriately for Labor Party people as highly motivated people in Requeim.Pity though Bill Hayden, who unremarkably is related to some important American political folk,was unable to stagger his Zionist acceptances for the Bill Hartley psuedo concern for the difference between the young and OLD Gaurd of Queensland and the ALP.Bill Hartley as like Bill Hayden are people I have accepted as more worthy than how they have been discounted.Sad Hayden has problems with workers as leaders,after all,most of us can read and write and determine bullshit as much as anyone else.The dual passport American -Israelis are disturbing many Americans,maybe even proud Americans Jews who have accepted Zionism,until the ugly old heads of some individuals in New York and the other poison layers have left an inheritance as Americans they no longer want.I have a lot of sympathy for the poorer types of Americans which obviously will include Jews that have accepted Zionism,but honesty doesnt require anyone to say my race and racial nation first,if in fact it is not a choice but a bloody burden.The snubbing of Jimmy Carter in Israel lately,accept for the well intentioned and well informed citizen in Israeli,proves the dual citizens love creating problems for others,and these people are and their contacts in all the Political camps.Australians have to be wary of lazy Zionists rather than active ones,who will know they have a battle if they are just about not having any more innocent Israelis killed.That sort of stuff must be simmering in New York everyday.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:41 am
In fairness, most of the populace are also narcissistic children.
The difference is, they’re not as stupid and well-connected as GWB.
April 20th, 2008 at 1:27 am
Agreed, THR.
There will be the occasional stumble along the way, but the course was set long ago. Unless the populace becomes seriously better informed and engaged, it’s going to be one hell of a ride.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
~H. L. Mencken (1880-1956)
April 20th, 2008 at 11:07 am
That one’s gotta hurt.
April 20th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
‘ADULT’ instead of ‘A DOLT’.
Perceptive.
April 20th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Or perhaps America will get an adult who hasn’t learnt the lessons that comes w/ the carnage & mayhem & horrific suffering delivered by WAR?:
article | posted December 15, 1999 (January 3, 2000 issue)
McCain’s Vietnam
Robert Dreyfuss
At the height of the crisis in Kosovo, McCain clamored for an invasion, bitterly criticizing the Clinton Administration for its “excessively restricted air campaign” and its decision to “refrain from using ground troops,” adding: “These two mistakes were made in what almost seemed willful ignorance of every lesson we learned in Vietnam.” Similarly, during the flare-up in 1994 over North Korea’s nuclear program, McCain recklessly accused President Clinton of “appeasement” of Pyongyang, warning, “The time for more forceful, coercive action is long overdue.” McCain demanded that the United States increase its alert status; mobilize US troops; deploy aircraft carriers, more fighters and Apache helicopters; pre-position bombers and tankers; and announce the immediate application of economic sanctions–even while recognizing the strong possibility that such actions could lead to war on the Korean peninsula. And on Iraq, he says that “the only way to prevail is to strike disproportionate to the provocation,” criticizing the White House for “the extremely limited scale” of bombing raids there.
and
Like many potentially life-altering experiences, McCain’s came as the result of a brush with death. On July 29, 1967, while preparing for his sixth bombing run over North Vietnam in his A-4 Skyhawk aboard the deck of the USS Forrestal, an accidentally fired Zuni missile ripped into his plane’s fuel tank. Within moments, a chain reaction swept the deck of the carrier, triggering fires and explosions, setting off 1,000-pound bombs and engulfing planes, killing 134 men. McCain, slightly wounded, saw body parts fly and watched blistered comrades die before his eyes.
A few months later, sipping Scotch in a Saigon villa with Johnny Apple of the New York Times, McCain reflected on the trauma. “It’s a difficult thing to say,” he said, “but now that I’ve seen what the bombs and the napalm did to the people on our ship, I’m not so sure that I want to drop any more of that stuff on North Vietnam.”
Certainly McCain could not have been unaware of the havoc unleashed by his bombing missions over Vietnam…a highly publicized series of articles in late 1966 by Harrison Salisbury in the New York Times described the widespread devastation of civilian neighborhoods around Hanoi by American bombs. “Bomb damage…extends over an area of probably a mile or so on both sides of the highway” near one target, he wrote, noting that “small villages and hamlets along the route [were] almost obliterated.” Several years ago, a chastened McNamara acknowledged that Operation Rolling Thunder, which unloaded 800 tons of bombs a day over North Vietnam, caused more than a million deaths and injuries in Vietnam each year from 1965 to 1968.
(AND THEN TO THE 99/2000 campaign against Bush):
Yet McCain stands far to the right on many issues. He supports the Star Wars missile defense boondoggle and never tires of accusing President Clinton of underfunding the Pentagon, while surrounding himself with hawkish foreign policy gurus, including Henry Kissinger, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Brent Scowcroft and Lawrence Eagleburger.
Here’s the lengthy but revealing article:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20000103/dreyfuss
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I think we’ve read about some of these “child/WAR Emperor-makers before…:(
At Faneuil Hall in Boston, Henry Kissinger told a crowd of McCain supporters that he “doesn’t usually get involved in things like this,” but given today’s conflicts in the world, he couldn’t stay away from the political scene. (Kissinger endorsed McCain earlier in the year.) Kissinger said he first met McCain in 1972 at the White House after he was released as a POW and has been a fan ever since.
Kissinger described the current international struggle: “There’s never been a period in history where so many things were in movement at the same time.”
(MS NBC via Huff Post: December 19, 2007 )
April 20th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Why dont we breed a all encompassing arse from all the species on Earth, and offer it to the likes of MCCain and Kissinger.And ask them a fundamental question about their masculinity……………..Are you a poofta type that would ram your end up anything that walks,as long as you kill it whilst claiming all along you are the first and only hetero,besides your lamentable friend!?Once answered in the affirmative or negative,then say why havent you just stuck to the American Bison!?
April 21st, 2008 at 12:51 am
Funny you should mention Kosovo, nasking. What a difference a few years makes!
“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) April 9, 1999
“Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly.”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX) March 11, 1999
“[The] President…is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home.”
-Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) 1999
April 21st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Nice catch, mars. Nothing quite so foul as the lingering stench of blatant hypocrisy from the self-righteous.
April 21st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Yea, there’s alot of TRICKY DICKS in the Repug & Neo-Con ranks.
Like op-ed writer for the NY Times & all-time weasel David Brooks, a fella who likes to portray himself as a moderate, somewhat meek, unintrusive, passive, mild-mannered, “concerned for the State of the Union” type…
BUT when he next worms his way into the spotlight…in that Gerard Henderson kinda way…watch him carefully & you notice he literally sweats “sanctimonious” & “devious”…
& has a habit of reconstructing the “Red State, Blue State divide”…& labelling anyone who wants to save America from going down the same disastrous rabbit hole as poor Israel as “NOT LIKE THEM” (meaning not like the stereotypical white, Christian, high-school educated only, guns toting, NASCAR attending, meat & potatoes American he wants to convince to vote Republican & send their kids to War to defend him & his wily mates…the types Bush likes to think of as “my people”)
…his TRICKY DICK approach has become SO obvious…but he keeps at it…just like Disney’s Coyote (no, I’m not referring to George Stephanopoulos)…
you see, it seems to suit his underlying belief in WAR AGAINST FUNDY ISLAM TO PROTECT ISRAEL AND AMERICA AT ALL COSTS…ya know the belief that sits like a snake amidst the words he generates…or should we say, humbly mutters…the belief that glows in those steely, agro, fanatical eyes (the real giveaway)…
the view that drives him to take part in the campaign to DEFINE Obama as another “fey elite Liberal”…the same sh*t they successfully pulled on Kerry & Gore…
& look where that got us.
Well, here he goes again:
“But as I say, the larger issue is, what kind of guy is Obama? Is he someone who bowls a 37 and doesn’t know anything about the way American people actually live, or does he actually get the way we live?”
(David Brooks on Newshour last Saturday)
WE LIVE?
I guess it’s easy for Brooks to move past the fact that America is a Nation of highly diverse cultures…& i’m sure most don’t leave an arse-print in the same leather-chaired restaurants & toffy rooms he normally likes to camp down in…when he’s not going around America stuffing corn down his throat to prove what an “average American kinda guy” he really isn’t.
“David Brooks was born in to a Jewish family in Toronto and grew up in New York City in Stuyvesant Town. He graduated from the University of Chicago in 1983 with a degree in history.”
(Wiki)
Yep, more than your average American guy Boo, Boo.
“Before the Iraq War, Brooks argued forcefully on moral grounds for American military intervention, echoing the belief of neoconservative commentators and political figures that American and British forces would be welcomed as liberators. However, some of his opinion pieces in the spring of 2004 suggested that he had tempered somewhat his earlier optimism about the war.”
(Wiki)
Sounds like someone’s hedging his bets to me…putting on a MODERATE persona…to get in the people’s good books…hmmm…a bit McCain like.
“On August 10, 2006, Brooks wrote a column for the New York Times titled “Party No. 3″. The column proposed the idea of the McCain-Lieberman Party, or the fictional representation of the moderate majority in America.”
ahhh, there we go.
IT’S THE ATTACK OF THE TRICKY DICKS.
Someone signal for Hillary to steal HOME whilst the TRICKY DICKS focus on Obama’s batting style.
April 21st, 2008 at 7:16 pm
They are not even particularly tricky anymore, Nasking. Their glitzy schtick has well and truly worn off.
April 22nd, 2008 at 1:24 am
Seeker, I remember an American mate saying very similar before the 2004 election.
The polls are showing a worrying surge (gawd, that freakin’ word) for John McCain.
I was gonna do a full bore “Pros and Cons of Hillary & Obama” list before the Pennsylvanian election…but i’m feelin’ way too “who could be arsed?”…& besides, Ken & Tim would probably call me on the length (understandably). So here’s the condensed list of two “adults” who might become the next President:
Hillary Clinton
Pros:
1) knows the White House…can get on w/ the job ASAP w/out getting caught up lookin’ for the loo paper and stuff
has a winning smile that doesn’t scare kids when she lets her hair down, unlike the Pope
2) is tech savvy
3) her husband didn’t seem so eager to go to war as Bush…perhaps she thinks same
4) is a woman…anybody not male, white & Republican has to be an improvement
5) is articulate & intelligent…unlike Bush
6) doesn’t seem determined to vilify the gay population for political gain…unlike most influential Repugs
7) sometimes wears groovy, sci-fi type outfits
9) is tough, resilient…& “still standing” after all those years of putting up w/ criticism from all quarters, incl. from bloggers hiding like boogeymen in her closet
10) I hear she’s quite friendly & loveable if you have a fireside chat w/ her…bring on the velvet-covered whisky (I wish).
Cons:
1) sorta “dropped the ball” when it came to the biggest chance for passing Universal health care cover in America
can’t bowl for sh*t
2) voted to give Bush an opportunity to start the Iraq war
3) has so much history w/ the Press it could get really really really boring & vindictive
4) kinda fibs too much
5) likes Celine Dion’s music
6) America “gets two for the price of one” and Bill raging & scheming in the White House day & night trying to reconstruct his legacy
7) might bring back “big hair”
9) is very religious oriented…or reckons she is
10) sometimes sounds like she’s being coached by Karl Rove & the Fox News team
Barack Obama
Pros
1) Can’t bowl for sh*t
hasn’t been in the business of politics long enuff to have a wife who will rage all day & night about her legacy
2) plays a mean game of basketball
3) has a nice grandmother back in Kenya
4) isn’t a white Republican male
5) highly intelligent & speaks like it
6) rarely loses his cool, even when Fox News types yell at him from a distance
7) nice smile…good for diplomatic meetings
9) has a wife & family that look superb on Christmas cards & stuff
10) understands Muslims & so wont bomb them w/out a courtesy call…reckons he wouldn’t have voted for the Iraq War if in the Senate w/ those who did, like Hillary
Cons:
1) has very short hair (hey, I was born in the 60s)
demonstrates far too much compassion & charm for an audience used to the likes of ‘American Idol’ panels
2) has a cool Pastor who unfortunately got caught on tape saying too many weird & wacky things…or mebbe too many RIGHT ON things
3) is involved w/ Chicago politics…& property development (or was)
4) wasn’t in the Federal Senate when he didn’t vote for the Iraq invasion
5) is somewhat distant w/ the gay crowd
6) sometimes has a “dweeb” moment
7) says “ehhh” quite a bit…& uses pregnant pauses too often…tho this could be a strategy, like Bush’s “dumb & dumber” act
9) has a hypnotic effect on audiences that allows critics to put him in the same category as The Beatles & The Monkees…think about it
10) is way too happy & content for a guy copping so much abuse
over to you Pennsylvania
April 22nd, 2008 at 11:09 am
I hope not. Though the extra four years could hardly be said to have played in favour of the Repubs.
April 22nd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
true…but this “battle of the titans” for the Democratic party nomination could eventually drive voters away from the polls…the Repugs would love that…the Dems have plenty of healing & convincing to do.
Still, at least it airs their “dirty laundry” before the campaign proper. But I’m not convinced that enuff American voters wont allow their underlying biases against “blacks” & “women”…and grudge against the Islamics to determine their vote.
The economy will play a major role but they’re already distorting Obama’s tax plans to make him look like Kennedy’s commie mate…by the time he hits June I reckon they’ll (both the Repugs & Dem Hawks) have boxed, wrapped & labelled him to the point many voters will think “Return to Sender”.
It seems many in America have forgotten to root for the “Cassius Clay” type these days…it’s all about being SAFE, kinda, in the hands of the tried, tested & somewhat failed but “heck God knows what them terrorists are up to these days…best to bomb ‘em like Truman did” types.
Imagine if we’d had a Republic here, where Beazley & Rudd had fought it out in the Corporate media spotlight, day in & day out, for a year and a half or so…and every kind of Corporate creep & Dynastic half-wit had sunk money into the partisan “character assassination” strategies…& neighbors gave each other the finger…& families divided…just to choose a nominee for the Labor Party.
Then, after that soul destroying, mind numbing battle, we would be stuck w/ the fight between the Labor victor, probably Rudd due to his energy levels, and some TRICKY DICK moderate Lib who was a tax-cutting for the rich, war-mongering, leaning on the side of “evangelism”, pretending to be eco-friendly, slime bag (Howard would’ve had to have stood down after 2×4 year terms & the next Lib would probably have beaten Latham)…
and going by the mood of the Nation after taking into account the workers will probably have been just as lured to “vice-like” debt…& be forking out high medical/secondary education/child care costs…& the Land just as raped & pillaged, if not more…it’s quite possible Rudd will have won…
but w/ every kind of lobbyist, advertiser, political strategist hangin’ off him you could imagine…& the public would feel the need to have 12 hot showers instead of the couple we did have to wash away the election grime…
& the likelihood Faulkner would be permitted to talk about TRUST & put some half-decent “integrity” safeguards in would be about NIL…
& considering Rudd could appoint his own cabinet…which might be the Corporation’s cabinet if they are riding his back like a manitou…then Julia Gillard et al would probably have to do a Nancy Pelosi type routine to have any influence (Gawd forbid!)…
yep, all that money, valuable life hours, propaganda, polling, advertising, pap television viewing time…for WHAT?
Just a hypothetical situation…but if we do go for a Republic…& in turn dump the Westminster system & the role of the minority parties…and turn elections into the “celebrity President” bit, i’m not so sure we’ll see anyone walking the talk on a “fair go for all” in this Country ever again…or ever have a Leader who doesn’t ride on the back of the obscenely wealthy.
I’m all for a Republic…but let’s keep it SANE. We want “adults” in power who aren’t just puppets on a Corporate chain.
April 23rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
At#14Winning smile..’unlike the pope’,that’s good, very funny.
You were born in the ’60s, I was born in the ’40s, so maybe one day you can tell me..:).
April 24th, 2008 at 1:13 am
LM, it was probably those in your generation protesting Vietnam w/ their long, flowing locks, & the look of a few “superb” rock bands & folk/country singers, that motivated my mates & I to let our hair grow out as teens. Some people really suit short hair, some have no choice. But i reckon i also reacted to my “bullying” step-dad who was in the air-force in the 60s…he’d insist on the barber scalpin’ me like an Indian…so once I hit Canada to live w/ my real Dad as a teenager in the 70s I thought “f*ck it!…now i do it my way”. Since then i’ve been wary of buzz cuts. Bad, traumatic memories can determine heaps about how one behaves towards others…unfortunately.
Still, I’m gettin’ used to Obama’s hair…ya gotta look beneath the surface…but as for the Pope, he might talk “love & sh*t”, but his haunted eyes & nosferatu type smile freaks me out. But then, i’ve never been big on religious institutions & their salesman.
However, I thought Qld Premier Anna Bligh looked relaxed & at home in that cosy Lutheran church in Hopeville today…i don’t mind small churches that enjoy their music & don’t go all “fire & brimstone” on ya…they can play a unifying, supportive role in small communities in need of help & compassion. Like I can cope w/ ‘Vicar of Dibley’ & ‘Father Ted’. Depends on who is speaking from the pulpit i guess. At least it ain’t that American style “prosperity evangelism”…brrr.
BTW, i thought the two Democratic Party “adults” stood up well today in Pennsylvania. Imho, both gave stirring speeches…i’m almost picturing a duet…almost. Hillary…& Bill, are so damn smart & tough (even tho i know Bill can be a pain, I still have a soft spot for him…reckon he was setup heaps by his political enemies…he’s no angel…but then again, who is?)…& Obama knows how to pull a crowd & deliver.
They might have a powerful, knockout punch together. But would Obama be “Gentleman” enuff to take the supporting role? And can we trust Hillary won’t turn out to be a Thatcher on steroids?